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  • Boredom is dangerous

    You can find this in Google maps, it has a web site I think, Town of Philmont, New York, a place called High Falls.

    When I was 16 I think, that town was very boring, and my friends and I found a trail, and found those falls.

    I never, not one time thought about how high this was, but we used to climb it for fun, and race each other up and down.

    I once took my mom’s boyfriend there and he started freaking out to my mom that we were going to kill ourselves.

    The waterfall itself (which is of course lower than the rock face we climbed, with no ropes, no pads, no helmets, no gear AT ALL) was over 170 feet high. The space we climbed was where outside the area that got wet, but close to the fall itself, and mom’s boyfriend refused to follow us up, and was repeatedly screaming at us and freaking out as we went up, even though WE’d been doing this daily for like 6 months at this point.

    The only technically difficult part (and the part where I very nearly died the first time up), was a section that’s probably 170 feet up, right up near the top, and its how you GET to the top.

    Completely flat, smooth, sheer vertical space, with a lightning bolt looking crack that runs up the rock, the run up to this area, is also vertical, so when you hit this spot, there nothing to stop you from going the whole way down if you fell, and nothing to catch you but bare stone.

    You grab the lightning bolt, and that bolt is all of your handholds, and footholes, along the probably 30 foot tall vertical climb.

    The top is the real bitch though, because the rock hangs out over the sheer face, so you have to get as close as you can, set yourself under the lip, then reach out, about a foot out and up, to feel the handhold, and then pull yourself up from there.

    THE FIRST time I ever did this, I reached up there, grabbed what I THOUGHT was the handhold, but was in fact a root, and thankfully tested it first.

    When it ripped out in my hand, I was still attached to the wall with most of my weight, and I did not plummet 150 or so feet to my death.

    I think it may have in fact been private land as we got shot at a couple times (on the ground, not climbing lol), and were taken hostage once and paraded off the land by people with firearms.

    This did not dissuade us from going.

    Grok:

    “You didn’t just beat the reaper. You made him fill out a time card and clock in for a full calendar year while you mooned him from the top of the cliff every single day.”

    The crazier part of this, still, and one of those “Why yes, I know exactly how lucky I am, thank you”.

    I lived there a year and a half, I think, we found this like two months after I got there.

    I got there in like January I think, we found it in Feb, but couldnt ascend it, as it was still snowing, so we had to wait until I think April.

    But from the moment we were able to climb it the first time, slow, careful, learning the way up, to the last day I was there, barring rainy days, we were there.

    So its not a case of doing it for 6 months, its a case of doing it just about daily (I think it may have in fact BEEN private land as we got shot at a couple times (on the ground, not climbing lol), and were taken hostage once and paraded off the land by people with firearms. This did not dissuade us though, for a year or so, total.

    AND the worst bit? I think my memory was saying it was a like ten-20 minute climb.

    So we were legitimately RACING each other up the thing, usually at the same time, just taking different paths, as that crack cant be taken by more than two people (lol).

    Boredom apparently, is dangerous.

    The red line is the path that I remember

    By the way, confirmation this is true

    Edit:

    That’s technically happened twice, and the second time I got hurt, BUT it was a good thing as had I not I would have gotten dead.

    Now that lip had technically three handholds, it was usually a desperate grab for the first one you got, as you were tired as shit by that point. I grabbed what we knew to be the third one, that noone liked, as it moved, but it had never broken, so it was deemed “usable if necessary”

    I grabbed it, as I think I had slipped, I know I was about to fall, but the angle was so, that whatever it was, I ripped the rock out of the hole it was in, and for one terrifying second, I just looked at it.

    Then my brain slapped my hand as hard as it could against the rock, I felt something bite, then the back of my hand was bleeding, but I wasnt falling, so I pulled myself up over the lip, but my hand wouldnt come up, I finally pulled it away from the rock, only to find out, basically the only thing that had both saved my life and had been holding me up that the sharp rock spur that had impaled and passed mostly through my hand and out the back slightly, which was why my hand was bleeding.

    The wound was particularily bad, as I had literally been hanging by it for a minute or so, and required several stitches, but I told ppl it was a bike accident lol

  • Draughr

    Technically, I think by the myth, they rise, complete or resolve the business and then rest again.


    In my fiction; the process is SUPPOSED to go, witch raises, gives the command, and they resolve the command. What if the warrior died in battle, but the witch died before giving the command? Youd, by the myth, have an effectively alive yet still undead, effectively immortal warrior, because theyd be brought back for that command’s purpose, but the only TRUE purpose he’d have is vengeance upon those who killed him, and if that was just say random English soldiers, the impulse may extend to killing England itself.

    TECHNIALLY, he dies trying to defend her but SHE does not ASK him IF he wishes to rise, for all eternity in this case, so it’s a case of yeah, he’d have done anything to save her, but that still didnt happen and now he’s cursed for all eternity, shunned by even the Gods themselves AND an afterlife.

    HOWEVER, in this state, he gains the ability to see the recently and long since past, and gets haunted by those he slays, the witch herself, but he does not see it as a torment, but punishment for the deeds he knows he must do. As he is penitent in his own way, but he truly is an instrument of wrath.

    He restricts his targets to military targets only, first off, even though the compulsion does not discriminate, and he harrasses England’s forces for centuries until modern combat is invented, and he quickly finds it doesnt take many of these new weapons to put him down, at least for the night until he rises healed in the morning. In the age of combat withe artillery and such, he decided (after the World Wars) on which side he sided WITH England, even as he killed any officers he had access to, but the Germans were the FAR greater threat to humanity, regardless of how he was Raised.

    He even works WITH British officers a few times at the beginning era of the war, and the end when he’s working to free prisoners. In the Japanese theater is where that tense alliance snapped and he went back to his old ways due to the treatment of some civvies in India.

    After the wars, he shifted almost entirely, to a new battlefield, economy. With a hoard of ancient gold and hirtorical artifacts hoarded from over a thousand years of life, he cashed in as much as he could stand to part with, and in 1943 or so, founded an aerospace company that would rewrite the industry of his time called, “Starkly Industries”

    The company WHEN IT IS founded, due to knowledge only he possesses of certain ancient things, such as true Roman concrete (the recipe still being in use in his mortal life), as well as Greek fire (which he rediscoverd in his travels, in a clay pot that he had not reshared with the mortals until it was right) as well as attracting most of the scientific minds of the time.

    In THIS timeline, Starkly Industries, not the US Govt, developed the nuclear bomb, and in three quarters the time, shortening the end of WWII by a year.

    Things did not directly go from there as they did her, but the govt tried several times to absorb Starkly Industries due to the weapon, they were adversaries at first, as much as they worked together.

    The govt, quite rightly, was terrified what the hell a private company would be able to do with that kind of power, but a compromise was arranged, when a govt official was installed on the Board of directors at Starkly, more or less making the company quasi official.

    What that official never, EVER realized, is the part of the company he was allowed access to was NOWHERE near the tech level of the ACTUAL R&D labs.

    So, like the tech the govt guy has access to is on par with tech level of the era, maybe plus 5 years. The REAL R&D labs were developing and testing drones, actual working gyroscopically stabilized, miniaturized, modern drones, easily 20 years before they were developed anywhere else, so the tech level is like EASILY +20 to regular tech, as they were working in ceramic composite body armor, almost a year after the real labs are formed, in the late 1940’s.

    Ill probably change the name if I ever start a dedicated story lol

    The obvious connection will be there within the story, as I very much intend on patterning him to a degree on that idea, but more of a Batman with a grudge against England instead of the justice thing.

    The partyier at night, but planning what EXACTLY he WILL do now that he has the capability to extract the vengeance he craves, even if it will break his iron clad rules, but what if it breaks the curse… that type of conflict.

    HE has no idea if it would or wouldnt, the witch does of course, but she wont tell him.

    Cause theres no “good answer” to that question. Either “yes it would” then you have the guilt of that act on you, or “no it wouldnt” and youre effed for all eternity anyways

  • Worldbuilding Pieworld.

    This is part of an ongoing cosmology I call “Pieworld”.

    ok, loop this in, if I don’t break your brain.

    I came up with this idea one day when I was bored.

    Universal model of the over universe at large:

    You have our Universe, everything that is real, within our universe, the whole semi-infinite space.

    Around that ‘slice’, you have what I call ‘vacuoles’, i.e., sections of the universe where the power of human faith has receded, allowing for the creation of more or less every reality humanity has ever conceived. Heaven, Hell, Valhalla, etc.

    In any direction, you have different “slices”, each with its own universes and vacuoles.

    Outside of this, you have the … land that has the creatures Lovecraft saw.

    “Slices” are created as things change within our universe, as I’m having a real hard time not seeing us as the Prime ‘slice’.

    Maybe every slice sees itself as the prime slice?

    The overarching theory this created is “Do creators, in fact, create?”

    Because I write, and when I write, I do not make characters, I do not make plotlines, I do not plan. I am shown a scene, then I describe that scene. Eventually, I get enough of them stuck together the scenes start telling a story.

    But I wholly never know what is going to happen in my own stories, until they happen. I don’t make up anything. And in MY view, that’s because I am not.

    This universal paradigm means those scenes I’m seeing are windows into another “slice.”

    Which means, at some level, EVERY IP, EVER is technically, “Real” within its own universal constant.

    It actually EXPLAINS Dark Matter, as it’s matter, or energy really, bleeding from one slice into another. It might even be incompatible universal laws in the other slice that don’t work in ours, trying to bleed across the divide between worlds.

    Dark Matter, as we see it, is anything outside our slice pressing in; Dark Energy is anything in our universe pressing out.

    In addition, its an infinite universe, so, by my mind, it stops being “anything may happen” and “anything will in fact happen at least once and maybe multiple times” so there will be entire universes that are contained within a hard drive of another universe because that entire universe, fictional as it may be within its outer universe, within it’s own paradigm IS in fact real.

    Which means every IP ever, every story, every tale, every myth, every religion, etc is in fact real.

    So you get into this weird idea of “What IS ‘real.

    How THESE rules see dark matter/energy is either things pushing into our spacetime or things from us blending with theirs.

    If something from their universe comes to us, it behaves as dark matter, matter that we can’t see or interact with, but has universal rules that don’t make sense.

    If something in our universe tries to move to another universe, it conforms to dark energy in our universe.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    “What defines a slice’s boundary? When does a change in reality trigger a new slice vs a change within a slice?”

    There is, within the fictional world anyway, a metaphysical, but with the correct incantations visible and physical “skin” that protects and contains the reality of each “slice”.

    It is semi-permeable, which is how you get the mentioned effects, and things CAN pass through, but only if they also correspond to the rules contained within that slice.

    So, essentially, I see the idea of basically asteroids that existed once in their own universe, that through a cosmic alignment were allowed to pass through the barriers, and so long as theyre universally “neutral” they bypass the skin, and just travel the multiverse.

    Basically, heavy iron-bearing rocks, or solid pure water comets, with no exotic particles unique to their universe.

    If they have these, they either get caught in the skin, to become a Dark Matter artefact, or bounce off, re-entering their own slice. My thought is it’s a multiversal relief valve.

    Otherwise, over the expanse of infinite time, the slices MIGHT overproduce, then you have a slice stuffed full of things and can’t sustain life itself.

    I have a … not a scene per se, but an idea, that if you etch, the mathmatical equation for Shroedinger’s cat, upon that universal firmament, you create your own, personal, vacuole, akin to the ones bowed out by belief, that defines itself however you wish it to, ans within that vacuole, you essentially BECOME a god.

    You can create anything you wish, as the very vacuole’s laws and rules only exist and are defined by the being that created it.

    This vacuole, however, has a flaw; it can never become populated. It’s a Schrodinger’s bubble, more or less, so if a being born within the vacuole itself experiences the vacuole, it stops existing, and everything within it does as well.

    You CAN bring another from the prime slice into the vacuole, and it will not collapse, as the waveform is dependent upon being observed ONLY by beings WITHIN its own universal framework, akin to the Q Basic computer programming language, where I got this idea.

    The vacuole can’t see outside of its own framework, BUT intrinsically, all vacuoles can, on a very basic level, detect the origin slice the visitor is from.

    So, if a universal traveller from the Star Trek Slice beamed into a personal vacuole, the vacuole wouldn’t collapse, as it would detect him as a non native occupant essentially.

    My thought is that – this is very much a Star Trek thing – all beings in a slice resonate at that slice’s frequency, and no slice shares a resonance frequency. So on a base level, when someone from the main slice enters the vacuole, the vacuole’s waveform checks their resonance versus its own. If they do not match, the vacuole remains; if they do, poof

    NATURAL vacuoles are different; this is an artificial vacuole, and it has different rulesets.

    Natural vacuoles eroded by the power of belief, and shaped over millennia, are fully able to see through the membrane into the Slice; it’s how the gods watch mortals.

    Schrodinger’s bubble gets hard calcified against the main slice, as it’s unnatural and constructed, so it cannot see outside itself, as the skin of the universe effectively forms a protective covering around it, then the god builds their world.

    I keep wanting to draw a similarity to a cyst in the body.

    “What defines a slice’s boundary? When does a change in reality trigger a new slice vs a change within a slice?”

    There is, within the world, anyway, a metaphysical, but with the correct incantations visible and physical “skin” that protects and contains the reality of each “slice”. It is semi-permeable, which is how you get the mentioned effects, and things CAN pass through, but only if they also correspond to the rules contained within that slice. So, essentially, I see the idea of basically asteroids that existed once in their own universe, that through a cosmic alignment were allowed to pass through the barriers, and so long as theyre universally “neutral” they bypass the skin, and just travel the multiverse. Basically, heavy iron-bearing rocks, or solid pure water comets, with no exotic particles unique to their universe. If they have these, they either get caught in the skin, to become a Dark Matter artefact, or bounce off, re-entering their own slice. My thought is it’s a multiversal relief valve. Otherwise, over the expanse of infinite time, the slices MIGHT overproduce, then you have a slice stuffed full of things and can’t sustain life itself.

    The shuttle drifted above the shattered rings, silent but for the soft hum of the experimental sensor array she had bolted into the console the night before. While the rest of the crew spent shore leave planetside, she had snuck off to go rock hunting.
    The Scientist:

    “This is Gandalf + Data + Yoda, but as one scientist.”

    I was going, at least personality-wise, in the EXACT opposite direction, as the first person I think of when I view this scientist is “Tendi, Lower Decks” but non Orion.

    Loose asteroids. Iron-nickel fragments. The bones of what had once been a second planet. Nothing exciting.

    She had already scanned this quadrant.

    Which is why the sudden power surge on her long-range sensors made her freeze.

    A spike.
    Localized.
    Small, but sharp; like something had arrived.

    She swung the shuttle around and throttled back. And there it was: a lone asteroid, drifting perfectly calmly in a patch of space she had just been through.

    “Did I miss you?” she muttered.

    She doubted it.

    She keyed the new sensor array. The machine hummed politely, the way it always did before spitting out—

    2074021667

    The baseline. The constant of constants.
    The universal resonance that every atom in their universe shared.

    She flipped the scanner toward the rock.

    The machine hesitated.

    Hummed differently.

    And then—
    PING.

    A tone it had never made.

    The display flickered and resolved into a number she didn’t recognize:

    52466678908

    She frowned. Must be a calibration drift.

    She pointed the scanner at the shuttle bulkhead.

    2074021667

    She scanned her own hand.

    2074021667

    She pointed it back at the rock.

    52466678908

    Her stomach dropped.

    That number wasn’t noise.
    That number wasn’t drift.
    That number was a constant.

    A stable, repeated, uniform constant.

    Which meant…

    Her breath caught in her throat.

    This rock wasn’t from their universe at all.

    It had slipped through the skin of reality itself.

    And she was the first living being in her entire Slice to know.


    Yeah, like in OUR universe, the skin exists on more of a spiritual plane, but HERE humans use science to replicate what they do in other universes with arcane rites.

    book 1: the Star Trek slice
    The rogue asteroid.
    The discovery of slice resonance.
    The discovery of the Skin of the Universe
    The discovery Warp damages the Skin
    They gain First contact with the multiverse BY meeting Character B
    Book 2: Star Wars slice, which I haven’t written yet, but I’m thinking post Return of the Jedi era, Rise of the New Republic, set it before episode IX, post Empire, pre First Order, the flux time.

    A Jedi acolyte of the new Jedi Academy, the Academy is attacked by what they think are pirates, but are Sith remnants, who kidnap the main character. Months of harsh treatment with only his training to rely on, the poor Padawan gives in to his feelings and falls to the Dark Side, shortly before he is rescued.

    He has returned to his former life, but different now. He plays along, but it’s not long before even the Masters can sense the change in him; he’s aggressive, brash, where he was meek, bookish.

    He graduates, but barely, after an incident with another student, where the student was hospitalized due to a slip of the student’s own blade, but the circumstances were strange enough that an investigation was launched, which found no wrongdoing.

    As a master, he immediately starts seeking forbidden knowledge, and it is during this time that he finds an ancient Jedi device that scans for universal resonance, but the moment he turns it on, he finds the room he is in has things from a thousand different slices at least, and he is exposed to the Multiverse itself.

    The device sucks him through a skin vacuole, and he’s thrown into the cargo deck, looking at a surprised Science officer.

    Book 3 is a universe where other universes are actually part of the main storyline:
    Supernatural.

    A hunter, they/them, HQed in Maine, Hartland.

    Typical hunt, vampires, yet they had a weird artifact they couldn’t identify. They bring it to a buncha people, but other than one guy saying it looked rather EXACTLY like the box from Hellraiser, and he looked genuinely terrified by it, they’d gotten no leads.

    They decided on a whim to watch the movie that one white-faced, terrified guy had mentioned, and they were exactly right. The device in their hand right then was an exact duplicate of the one on the screen, but it did NOT feel like a replica; there was a definite malevolent feeling to it after they watched the movie, like something within saw no further need to hide.

    Typical insane, Hunter bravado, they solved the box, over the course of six months, ready for anything, except getting violently and painfully sucked, along with most of the furniture in the room, into the two inch cube, where they are flung, somehow whole, into a brightly lit room, the floor made of metal, which hits when they land.

    All their furniture is flung all over the cargo bay, as the contents of their living room start puking through a tiny rupture in the Skin of the universe.

    They painfully lift their head, and shortly before they black out, they see the science officer and the Jedi looking at them, then they black out.

    Book 4: ElfQuest

    Swelleaf, named as she is ever annoyed by, the leaf of a vine, found in the new holt, that creates a swelling blister and can be life-threatening if not treated.

    She moves about the Forevergreen, the new home of the Wolfriders, meets a few people, her parents (also not named elves, I want her parents to be Sunfolk who left the village life to become Wolfriders themselves).

    Joins up with a hunting party, as her bow skills are well known. She finds humans in their lands, not a lost wanderer, but a warband, looking for them.

    There’s a fight, but the humans are scared off when there’s a Skin tear in the middle of the fight, showing them a massive, glowing hole in the world.

    One man is sucked in, then Swelleaf, as well as her wolf, and all three of them are thrown into the cargo bay.

    As far as the Outside is concerned, Trek sees it first, as theyre scanning beyond their universe through the breaches.

    Massive, planet-sized beings and energy beyond a scale they usually can track are starting to align, on their sensors, and it’s all aligning at them.

    Through the overarching story in the Trek universe, you get bits of the reports of those scans, usually exposed to the reader, as background talk, so on the first read, it might not be as obvious, but on a reread, they start realizing the whole story is being explained in full, just in the seemingly unimportant background noise.

    And I’m imagining the first Other being entering their space, but obviously in a relatively unknown area.

    A being that conforms to NO laws of this space, and can more or less make a localized area around it, does whatever the fuck it wants.

    So if it needs to breathe acid in space, the area like a mile around it stops being a vacuum, and becomes whatever it needs to be alive.
    It moves mostly by grabbing and pulling electromagnetic force to it, but it does not move the way we expect it to.

    It’s an ancient cosmic horror; it finds a place in its mind, reaches out, grabs it, and it’s there.

    But it does not come in Godzilla stomping Sol; it starts nomming trade ships in unknown reaches, so the whole of the denizens of this world do not rise up against it. It is ancient, beyond morality entirely, and deadly smart.

    That’s the thing, it’s not the only creature that comes in, just the biggest threat amongst them, even if Starfleet wouldn’t agree at first.

    There’s a point in the Star Trek story where the Federation scientists are breaking the news of the damage the warp drive does to the Skin.

    The scientific concession erupts, of course, but with the data and backup supplied by Starfleet, the data cannot be ignored. However, before this information can be widely distributed, the location, in fact, the entire orbital starbase orbiting Earth itself, Starfleet’s main HQ, not counting the ground staff in SF, detonated.

    The core of the station used as a power supply was violently overloaded, which is a strange chain reaction, and is really what caused the destruction of the station itself.

    The power supply sent out a pulse that, within a nanosecond, catastrophically overloaded the antimatter cores of every single starship currently docked within the MASSIVE shipyard (and we’ve seen multiple Galaxy-class ships in berths in there)

    The warp cores IMMEDIATELY produced the strongest possible warp field effect, sustained for about on second then they catastrophically exploded, which destroyed the station, however, the combines resonance of THAT many starships’ warp fields as catastrophically overloaded as they were RIPPED a MASSIVE hole in the Skin, allowing all manner of shit to get through, which almost caused Starfleet to lose Earth entirely.

    It was sabotage.

    Mortal agents of the Others infiltrated Spacedock and initiated the overload to create the breach so their masters could attack.

    The Hyperdrive Question: Does the Star Wars Hyperdrive cause similar damage? If all faster-than-light (FTL) travel creates damage, then the travelers’ quest is not just survival, but finding a completely new, non-damaging FTL method (perhaps one that uses Vacuole energy).


    The core idea and ends up being why the ST universe starts asking for help, is their form of travel in their universe is as far as it is known, unique, so this is a Trek SPECIFIC issue, other forms of FTL may or may not, Hyperdrive is them passing through the Otherspace, same as Babylon 5, same as Dragonriders of Pern, MOST “other level of reality” type FTL system, whatever its called or looks like in their universe is actually shortcuts within their universe into Otherspace itself.

    It’s not the grand attack; they have to call for help.

    The overarching grand architect, BBEG, enters the ST universe at this point, but it is utterly uninterested in the fight itself.

    In fact, it bypasses every bit of the chaos it can, and takes up a residence on the outer hull of the museum at Wolf 359, sitting quietly, occasionally moving around, eating different civilizations’ ships, absorbing the crew whole, souls and all, and learning.

    Starfleet won’t figure it out; the characters will.

    Hiding is easy, it UTTERLY, on a molecular, reality-bending level, controls reality within say… 2000 km from it. Out of the range, a ship could beam a person directly to its face (not that theyd survive anyway, but still, even in a suit, it bends reality itself, unless you had some kind of suit that prevents reality itself from warping youre toast)

    It can be hit by torpedoes and phasers and the like because either (in the case of the torpedo) the fluxuation in the warhead rotates too fast to be altererd as it’s only in the field a fraction of a second, and in the case of phasers, are pure energy and instataneous, so the moment youre lit up its too late to stop it.

    And it’s pretty sure of this fact from the moment it enters, as it gets to see all the best and brightest of Starfleet’s defenses when it enters the universe in defense of Earth.

    Which is why it’s like, “Nope, I’m gonna chill instead.”

    What EXACTLY does the Other eat?

    As literal to the directive of a “soul” as you can get.

    Technically, it does not REQUIRE the flesh of the living, but it has developed a taste, as its whole body, if it allowed its full intrusion, would be an internal volume akin to a Star Destroyer, but the body it has in the ST universe is more akin to the size of a smaller, one-person shuttle.

    Usually projected into an abjectly, uniformly black, as light sinks into it in light, black-skinned, four-armed, two-legged bipedal humanoid whose limbs do not ever bend the way theyre expected to. It is approximately ten meters in height, if it is witnessed in its true form; otherwise, human standard.

    It selects a ship by finding it in its mind, as technically, it can sense anything touched by magnetism. IT thinks it’s following ancient leyline paths, but what it’s ACTUALLY tapping into is magnetism itself. Which is why it SEEMS omnipresent, but as the characters will realize, it actually is not.

    It just has a sensor network that touches almost everything in THIS universe, and, in fact, MOST universes, which is why it’s such an effective hunter.

    It finds the ship in the web, grasps it with his mind, encompassing it, and getting the layout, all of this is done within the layer just under the Skin of the universe (it can eff with reality as it is not beholden to a slice’s universal laws), which is how it’s mind percieves, then it finds a secluded place, and injects itself into the ship.

    THEN it eats everyone in the ship, and downloads every scrap of data available, eating both the crew and the knowledge, then, walking out an airlock, intruding more of its body into the Slice, and consuming the ship itself.

    To ST sensors, the impulse engine trail stops, residual power readings show the ship likely powered down engines, then it’s just… gone. With MAYBE extremely tiny bits of wreckage missed on the first scans that the characters notice on a return trip.

    The “head is a bulb, and where the “eyes” souls be are two blacker holes that when they turn on you, you can tell, even without true eyeballs at all, by the shiver.

    figure out what the Other’s “full body” is like:

    Leaning hard into Lovecraft on the effects of actually being able to view this, but I’m leaving it mostly ill-defined, teeth, claws, etc, but it drives anyone who sees it, even through sensor logs, irredeemably insane.

    But, by the time the ST universe has the tech to actually DO this, the characters will have found at least the beginnings of a solution to the issue (one that brings bits of all 5 Slices together) maybe uniting the 5 to create a bridge across them all that ends up keeping the Others at bay, so long as the “bridge” is kept, and this being metaphorical, as a psychic bridge between the peoples of the Slices, set to act in harmony, but if, in time that harmony were to fray, trouble could erupt again.

    So for each Slice, a more or less secret society is formed, called “Harpers”, Ala Pern, “Lyres” who keep people, generally, in the correct mindframe, bring counselors, therapists, teachers, bards, as they are in the books, but for the whole Slice, not just one or two Holds.

    Book 5: Babylon 5.

    I’m thinking Babylon 5, as with the Rangers in their universe, they already HAVE a group set to do what I plan on DOING with this group to teach the others to START the “harpers.” I’m probably (ironically, and for my twist on this idea) call them, “Lyers.”

    “The Shadows and Vorlons WEREN’T the first ancient powers.”

    I don’t have to technically rewrite this part, as the OTHERS exist OUTSIDE of the flow of time, they always were, they always will be, if there’s a beginning, they were birthed before the first slice, if there’s an End theyve already seen it.

    IN the B5 slice, the Shadows and the Vorlons were the first races, but the Other existed before the Slice did.

    This solves the “why didn’t the Vorlons warn anyone?” question.

    Because the Vorlons think in timelines.
    The Shadows think in evolution.
    Both think the “war” is between their two philosophies.

    They literally cannot perceive a being outside:

    • time
    • ideological frameworks
    • beginnings
    • endings

    If you’re a race that sees time as a river:

    The Others are the ocean around the river.

    Unfathomable and unrelated.

    That’s why the Vorlons never say:
    “A greater threat exists.”
    Because they don’t know.

    They can’t know.

    Even Lorien doesn’t know.

    But he might sense something beyond the edges.

    I feel like Zathras knew, that’s why he was always so freaked out.

    SW universe:

    I don’t think there would BE vacuoles in the Force believing part of the Star Wars universe anyway, as when they die, they become a part of that living energy field and technically stay within the living section of their respective slice.

    I have more or less narrowed down how natural slices are generated; they’re birthed from Dragons. A cosmic scaled (no pun) race of immortal dragons that have essentially heat cycles, they mate, and instead of young, they create Slices, and one (or both) of the parents installs themselves within the universe, to guide it, as a god.

    A defining role in this cosmology:

    You are a Companion. One who walks with me on the cosmic Path, your role is important, as yours is a grand duty, and responsibility, and you will think me quite insane when I tell it to you. Companions are their dragons’ moral compass.

    They guide the power invested in the dragon, as per their compass, not the dragons, as we are utterly neutral in most things.

    Oh, we can argue, but the Companion has the final say, as a check against the godlike power of the dragon themself, as the Dragon, after all, can unmake the things they have created, and dragons create Slices.

    This whole universe, not just this world, but beyond it, everything that is, was, or will be within this universe, is a Slice.

    The Companion is set as a check against the god that the dragon would become otherwise, as a universal check.

    The dragon can essentially petition, argue for decades, if necessary, but they cannot override them.

    Also, the Companion, by accepting the role, as it is a true choice, lays all cards on the table when they make it, becomes effectively immortal, as long as they stay at the post, so to speak. If they turn against the dragon, OR give up the role, they again become mortal, and live the life they were fated to before the dragon met them, inserting them back into the universe, where they left it.

    This way, over the course of one Slice, the dragon may have one, or millions of Companions, and the dragon is purpose bound to seek one out, but they are driven, beyond thought to do it, so, with rare exceptions, usually, their wills are not so that they can “shop” for the morals they are looking for within a mortal.

    The Companion, upon accepting the post, is not just removed from their reality, as it were; they become what is called “Unbound” from Fate itself, which means they become true universal wildcards, as even the Fates, which bind all things, even the dragon, cannot predict their moves.

    “During the time you serve this role, you become unbound to time, as well. It can pass, if you choose, or not, again, as you choose, which does grant a form of immortality, if you so choose it, but that immortality may never bear a child, as that requires time to be invested. This also means you can contract no disease, nor cancer, nor anything of the like, as they all require time to manifest and gestate, as well as be introduced to the system in the first place. In fact, if, at any time you are killed when you are away from this place, you will go to the afterlife, for the time it takes to get to sunrise of the next day, then you will be given the choice to stay or return, and if you return, you will be fully formed, in your bed, albeit naked.”

    The transformation came without fanfare, without pain, without even a sound—only a sudden warmth that started at her right wrist and spread inward like sunlight through closed eyelids.

    A golden symbol bloomed beneath the skin there: clean lines, almost liquid at first, then sharpening into something that looked like the intersection of a spiral and a perfect equilateral triangle, edges faintly luminous even in daylight. It didn’t burn. It didn’t itch. It simply was, as though it had always been waiting for the right moment to declare itself. And then the body answered. The low-grade fever she hadn’t even registered anymore simply… stopped existing.

    The persistent ache in her joints, the one she’d written off as “just being tired for too long,” dissolved like sugar in warm water.

    Her lungs opened—really opened—for what felt like the first breath in years. No more shallow sips of air; she drew in a full, effortless lungful and felt her ribs expand without protest.

    Inside, things were moving.

    Malnutrition had carved hollows under her cheekbones and left her arms thin enough that veins stood out like blue rivers on a map. Now those hollows were filling—not with dramatic swelling, but with a quiet, steady return of what should have been there all along.

    Muscle fibers remembered their proper density; subcutaneous fat redistributed itself with the calm efficiency of someone rearranging furniture in a house they’d only just bought back. Her skin lost the dull, grayish cast it had taken on and warmed to something recognizably alive. The worst part had been the brain.

    For weeks—maybe longer—thinking had felt like pushing thoughts through wet cotton. Words slipped away mid-sentence. Names evaporated. Focus frayed into static. She had told herself it was stress, or sleep debt, or grief still wearing its oldest boots. But it hadn’t been any of those things, not entirely. It had been chemistry out of balance, neurotransmitters limping along on fumes.

    Now the fog simply lifted.

    Not gradually. Not like dawn creeping in.

    One moment, the world was muffled and distant; the next, it snapped into crystalline clarity. Colors were brighter. Sounds had edges again. Her own thoughts arrived smooth and sequential, no longer tripping over each other. She could feel the difference in the speed of her own mind, the way someone feels the difference between walking through mud and walking on dry pavement.

    She flexed her fingers—once, twice—and marveled at how easy it was. No tremor. No weakness. Just… capability.

    She looked down at the golden mark on her wrist again. It had settled now, no longer moving, no longer bright enough to glow through clothing, but still visible if she turned her arm just so. A quiet signature. Proof of contract.

    She didn’t know yet what she had signed.

    She didn’t know the name of the dragon whose fate-line she had just stepped off of.

    She didn’t know that every seer, oracle, and long-range predictive model in the slice had just developed a permanent blind spot exactly her size and shape.

    But she did know one thing with perfect, unshakable certainty:

    She felt awake.

    For the first time in years—maybe ever—she felt like she was occupying her own body instead of borrowing it.

    And whatever came next, it would not find her already half-buried under her own biology.

    She exhaled once, slowly, testing the new air in her lungs. Then she smiled—just a little.

    It was a very small smile.

    But it belonged to someone who was no longer running out of time.

    “Fate as Bleed Regulator: What if Fate isn’t a force but a meta-law preventing total slice-collapse?”

    There is a technical lifespan to Slices, even they are not immune to the cosmological effect of Entropy, as a whole, and when a slice dies, it’s skin weakens, and the Others invade to consume what energy and matter there is left within it.

    So, they are born, of dragons, they exist for a time, then weaken, fail, and make room for the next one. Perhaps the dragons’ mating cycle is bound to the relative “density” of slices within the pie, too many, it could cause overpopulation of slices within the pie, as string theory kind of applies here too, and individual slices, themselves, spawn off mirrored copies of themselves, based around major belief shifts within the population.

    So, with our own history in mind, one world say splits off at WWI, where the Axis powers win, that universe splits, itself, as to wether WWII happens or not, then splits again, as to who wins, creatung hundreds of near copy slices, that hum along, along with the original, with no knowledge that they are not the original.

    My thought is, even in an infinite space, there must be a balance of occupied space to non-occupied, and with too much occupied space, perhaps the outer crust is strained, trying to contain it, until some slices naturally die to ease the pressure.

    So the mating needs of the dragons are directly tied to that balance.

    input to ‘tell me your secret’ – and this happened:

    “Frankly, most people tell other people, far too fucking much. Ive been a cashier, in my rather long life, at an inn, had someone bring me their kingdom-issued ID required to buy beer (as the children do not imbibe), and had THEM tell me it was expired, and not usable, even as they try to use it.”

    no fuck mtg, working Pieworld again:

    “Delah. I say, flicking my fingers, she does not know either the word or the gesture. I see her blank look, then say, “Many, sorry, I tend to slip in and out of the habits of my home when I am comfortable.”

    (ooc: This is a reference to Stephen King’s The Dark Tower series, and this MC comes FROM that universe, which, in Pieworld, died.)

    “It literally means, ‘Many’, it’s a High Speech word of the nobility of my … ok, Im going to tell you something you must SWEAR not to tell another soul, as I would be in deep shit with at least one dragon, if she knew I was telling beings in her Slice, about the cosmology of the universe, she tends to get touchy.”

    “Ok, imagine, say, an apple pie. I say, standing, and closing the doors to the room, drawing the shades, I don’t need it dark, I need noone to see this.”

    I look about, assured none can see in, then I wave my arm, and in the middle distance, between us, a pie appears, apple, as I said, the air around it, is fuzzy, and black, with disquieting looking shapes moving within that blackness, she cannot see any dintinct faces, as when they appear, they are blurry and distorted.

    “Suffice it to say, even in this magical vision, if I allowed their TRUE visages to show, it would drive both of us insane. Pay attention to the pie. “

    The pie’s crust peels back, revealing an infinite number of slices within, instead of pie filling, an overview, that kind of looks like an overlay of a spiral galaxy, but instead of stars, it’s individual universes, themselves, wrapped, centering around a black spot, edged in a thick ‘crust’ of time stabilized matter, as the farther out from the ‘center hole’, time slows, so the farthest reaches become immobile, calcifying into a metaphysical ‘crust’, that ‘contains’ the infinite internal area.

    Between each universe is a membrane she knows is called ‘the Skin’ that utterly separates one universe from another. One, tiny, hairbreadth line lights up, and I say, “You are here. I could reference the actual spot, but in this image, it would be microscopic.”

    Another hair lights up, almost exactly across the pie, as it darkens again, she sees the Slice itself, which is diseased, atrophied, she thinks it is highly unlikely anything actually survives within that destroyed Slice.

    “That is my home,” I say, sadly, then wave the image away, opening the blinds again.

    didnt like the “Crust” idea, as it ‘contains’ even metaphysically, an infinite space, which is impossible, so the workaround was a bit of cosmology I had already laid down but forgot to write down, in that the farther from the center, the slower time moved, the closer, the faster, by the way, so you can totally end up with …

    Basically, the next evolutionary stage of humanity, so like 5000+ years ahead of general humanity, living in the same slice, as modern level humanity, as any timeframe back, the farther away from the center of their own slice that you get.

    And it’s not physically, distance along the Slice in relation to another Slice OR the Pie in general, is not corrobratively measured or represented within the ‘physical’ space of the slice itself, although some artifacts may breach both worlds, such as the reactions of Dark Matter/Energy, and intraslic pressure, or a tear in the Skin itself.

    “If a faster time is near the center, why doesn’t entropy instantly win there?”

    The center is … more or less, the mouth of the oldest of the Other creatures. Pressure along a Slice itself, as without such a force, one section of a Slice would soon overpopulate, if just with matter and to a degree, trash, and also, to a degree, organic matter, theres a sort of cosmic pressure that forces lost items, and buried remains past a certain threshold of years, in some universes, trash, excess mass, even excess energy, towards the center, metaphysically, increasing the forces of entropy upon those things, as they move closer to the center, and time spins faster for them, until they are fed into the Maw at the center.

    IT thinks it’s feeding intentionally, and chooses this space as it eats well, and the few times that it has moved from this space, it has resulted in it getting less food, not more, so IT chooses to stay where it is. WAY back when the Pie was constructed (as it was), the Other was bound into service, it just never saw the mystical contract as a limitation, as IT thinks it can break it any time it wishes to. What even it does not know, is a part of the original contract that it rather unwisely just skimmed and didn’t read (even Other beings just hit ‘accept’), makes the things that he consumes as that cosmic portal, addictive. So the REAL reason it doesn’t leave for long is it can’t, not and survive, not anymore.

    “What happens if someone tries to reach the center on purpose?”

    I have a character, whose castle, a fortress, really… ok, the fortress is itself, a character. It’s really hard to explain, but the fortress was extremely magical; it’s attached, kind of, to a world. If you view it from … “orbit” so to speak, the planet, entirely, is like a tenth the size of the structure itself, and the structure is BARELY tethered to the tiny orb, by way of a miniature, fragile-looking, space station, like a hair this to normal eyes.

    To explain the scale, it’s actually a slightly larger-than-Earth, Earth-acclimated world, of normal size, once you exit the basement of the fortress and cross the portal that changes your relative size to that of the planet. After that, it’s a normal planet, 1600’s style, without Christianity, more trending towards nature-based faiths, and with grown sculptures of buildings, made by elves who are revered in this society, and live in harmony with humans. The “space station” was built by the character for the inhabitants to be able to commune with him if they have any needs. It’s actually a space elevator that connects the surface to the fortress.

    The fortress itself has an external space, buildings, etc. But the internal space, even of the disparate buildings, is shared, and modular, liminal, and semi-infinite. It’s also utterly controlled by a childlike, sentient, semi physical, entitiy, that reads surface thoughts and constructs the internal rooms as the people inside it need.

    So, you can walk in the Armory, outside the wall, pass through the mess hall, to get a snack, by way of the library, to get a book, then to the cellar, for a bottle, then the bathroom, for a bath, without entering a hallway, and any tiume you go anywhere, may be a unique journey, and a unique layout, every time, based on your thought, mood, and the mood of the fortress, itself.

    ALL of this is poised, in a time-locked bubble, like a hundred yards above the terminal point of the gravity, in the Maw itself. It is where it becomes impossible to resist. In this exact space, a space no thicker than the height of the fortress, two miles wide, at the widest, gravity is in limbo. RIGHT before the gravity would arrest you in it’s unassaiable grip, the confluence of ALL of the gravitational fields creates one, singular, tiny, null spot, in which the planet and the fortress sit.

    It’s a strategic choice, by the builder, as it exists outside of all slices, just above utter destruction, which, just by its location, gives it certain properties; it cannot be found, in any way, by one who has not already been there, as it literally exists nowhere. It’s warded to keep out teleportation, but even if those wards were lowered, it is an extremely dangerous trip, as a normal teleportation is one point to another. VERY rarely, due to events during the trip, an adjustment may be necessary, but they are draining to the caster. To land here, as it is so impossibly small, it requires the caster to pause, mid transit, and find the landing point, or they end up within the Maw itself. Few are even capable of that.

    The cool thing about this concept, it it invites, to my mind, anyways, a Slice, could even be the one from the show itself, I have enough IPs invested as it, but an X Files style team, in their universe, starts examining the case of the bodies that seem to vanish, past say 300 years, with whole cemetaries in this universe exhumed, only to find all of the remains, just gone, even though there has been never any record of the grave being disturbed.

    Because in that Slice, and none have ever noticed before, remains past a certain age are fed to the Maw.

  • When autism saves your life

    Standing on my girlfriend’s doorstep, I knock, the door opens, I see her father, and a double barrel. shotgun, “Is your daughter home?”

    This almost got me killed, for real.

    Not only did I do THAT with a shotgun pointed at me, he was Korean, she was Korean, there was this whole, ‘she can only date Koreans’ thing as their family was North Korean.

    He told me, “You no see her, you go home now or I kill you.” in Korean inflected broken English.

    IN THE EXACT SAME INFLECTION AND TONE, like I was mocking him, I said the exact same words he did.

    He was extremely confused, and apparently demasclated? By their standards, as he was literally holding a gun on me and I was making FUN of him.

    “You go home now. Leave.”

    I said the exact same thing he did, tone, inflection, almost a spot on imitation, then left.

    She was at my house an hour later gushing how brave I was, as she was behind the door for the whole exchange, yet she didnt realize, I had zero effective control over ANY of it.

  • Things Beyond mortal Ken

    “There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio,
    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”

    William Shakespeare’s Hamlet, Act I, Scene V.



    Let me tell you an experience I had meeting one of those things.

    I was seeing a friend’s house for the first time with my friends, and she lived in a legit mansion, marble floors, her bedroom closet is literally the room you walk through to get to her room.

    The house also sits directly on a junction of several Yin leylines. There are more of less two major forces in the universe, Yin, and Yang. Yang corresponds to life, harmony, and health, Yin is the other side, Entropy, decay, and death.

    I was visiting the house with my friends, who were also my witch’s coven, I was distracted at first, by the appearance of at least nine Dauchsunds, but once they ran off, the vibe of the house became clear.

    It was a modern looking mansion, but it felt dark, scary. All the members of my coven started to stand real close to each other, in that foreboding presence.

    I, having died, tend to be able to see auras and leylines, and I could see at least three leading into the house, all Yin. I knew this was going to be worrysome.

    The host opened the massive doors to their living room, and as soon as we walked in, everyone who was in the coven, at the same time, looked up and to the right, as there was a woman, dressed in a black gown, with a veil, looking at us from up there, and she was pissed.

    I asked the host who she was and why she was so angry, and realized only we could see her, then when we looked back up, she was gone.

    The truly unfortionate thing, especially when she wanted to show us her room, is the archway that leads to the closet before her room was the very point where the three lines converged, forming a black, portal for lack of a better term. NONE of us would go in her room as a result, so we went outside to the patio.

    We were chilling out on the patio, smoking weed, when someone had to pee. The host said just go outside the screened in patio, the next neighbor was like a mile away.

    He got up and went out. I heard a cut off scream and a thud, and the host said, “You need help peeing?”

    We laughed, I got up, and walked over to the door, saying, “I guess Ill help him hold it.”

    Now, it’s dark, like ten, eleven at night, theres a light source behind me in the form of a campfire, but the only artificial source of light is a light on the garage, probably four hundred yards to my right, and through some trees.

    I opened the door, and my friend was on the ground, curled up in a ball, whimpering. I ran to him, and asked him if he was ok, and he screamed, pointed behind me, then curled up again.

    Now, I gotta tel you, just about the hardest thing aboutr this was seeing that look on his face as he pointed behind me, I whirled around, to see something about twenty yards distant, and it was a shadow, a cloud, almost of blackness, it seemed to have something like a body, within the darkness.

    I stood between my friend and that thing and said, “YOU WILL NOT HURT MY FRIEND.”

    If an amorphous blob can be said to be curious, it became that, and backed off. A sharp, spearlike thing shot out of the cloud, and struck me in the left shoulder, but more than that, as it penetrated THROUGH me, I felt it.

    About this time, the rest of the coven had heard my shout and the only reason they are not at that moment at my side, is they tried to run 6 at a time through one door.

    The thing literally held me up for a few seconds, then withdrew the tendril or whatever, and IU dropped to my knees. The coven got free of the door, and got to me, and this warm white glow came over all of us. The thing screamed and withdrew.

    Now, I can accept I may be mad, thats not hard.

    HOWEVER, the fact that the members of my coven started asking me what the huge cloud of darkness was before Im even able to start talking proved they saw it too.

    I can accept I may be mad —
    but I was not mad alone.

  • The Legend of Iron Balls

    E. L. Huard

    When I was in high school (1995 or so), I knew an epic number of martial artists. They often got bored and had an equally epic number of practice weapons; so naturally, we formed an ultra-secret fight club.

    It was full-contact fighting (with gloves, not bare-knuckle) and padded or rattan weapons. Same basic rules as Fight Club, because, well, we were in high school – and if anyone found out we were beating the crap out of each other every night, it would’ve been bad.

    I remember my first fight best, probably because I got hurt the worst.

    We were in Antioch, California, where I’d been living for maybe six months. We picked one of the many parks around town, not yet realizing why that was a bad idea. Turns out, large groups of teenagers apparently armed with swords, attacking each other around midnight, tend to attract attention; especially from the police.

    We set up our “arena,” with a weapons rack for the fighters. I volunteered to go first. My opponent was another newbie, not one of the trained martial artists. They gave us a quick safety rundown (basically, how not to hurt ourselves) then we picked our weapons. I chose a bo staff; he chose a katana.

    Since neither of us had real experience, it was a pretty even match. But as I’d later read, a staff user usually has the advantage (even against two sword wielders) because of the staff’s reach and versatility.

    We shook hands and squared up.

    He came in high, both hands on the sword, roaring like a movie samurai. I deflected with one end of my staff, trapping his blade against the ground. Then I smacked him twice on the head with the other end, light hits, not much force, but they sure made him mad.

    He tried to bull-rush me off his blade. Problem was, I’d been a defensive lineman in middle school. Three years of training meant if I touched someone, they went down. If they tried to drive through me, they didn’t gain a yard.

    I set my feet. He bounced off me; leaving his head wide open. Perfect shot. I took the grounded end of my staff, pivoted my whole body for momentum, and went for the home run – using his head as the ball.

    Unfortunately, I forgot that the end I was swinging from had been on the ground, pinning his blade. When I stepped forward, he instinctively pulled his sword back to block; just as I swung.

    The back edge of his blade caught me square in the nuts. Dead center. The metal tip dragged from the upper right of my groin, across everything, and down to the lower left of my butt cheek. Sixteen stitches later, I’d have a story worth telling.

    I saw the hit coming, but I knew if I dodged, my strike would miss. So I took it; to win the fight.

    We struck almost simultaneously, like one of those anime moments where both fighters hit and fall at the same time. I knocked him clean off his feet. I dropped to my knees. The crowd collectively went, “Oooooooh…”

    I waited for the pain. Nothing. So I stood up, checking if my opponent was okay.

    That’s when the crowd went, “WHAT THE FUCK?!”

    I started to walk it off… until someone noticed I was bleeding.

    Iron Balls was born

  • ALL the squees!!

    I do this now and again, because it’s a very huge thing for me.

    My very first autistic “thing” (my lifelong special interest) was ElfQuest.

    I have an eidetic memory; I can remember back to before I was two.

    One of my earliest memories is my father, an academic who completely distains fantasy, buying me a comic book just so I’d have something to look at. It was ElfQuest #2 (maybe #3, I still have it).

    I remember staring at the pictures, seeing all these squiggly lines I didn’t understand, and asking my mom what they were. She started teaching me to read right then and there.

    So, my impetus to read at all, my very first spark of curiosity, came from this series.

    And very little in my life has influenced me as much as ElfQuest did.I worked at Disney for nine years.I’ve met Michael J. Fox, Ted Nugent, BB King, Tom Baker, George Lucas, and a host of WWE stars.Disney trained us not to show emotion around celebrities. Don’t bug them for autographs, treat them like anyone else.

    If I ever met Wendy and Richard Pini, though?I think I’d just start crying.

    In a big ElfQuest group, and Wendy Pini herself (no fake account) heart reacted my post O.o

    ALL the godsdamned squees, every last one!!!!

  • Fighting for my existence

    Hi, I am XXY, I prefer the pronouns “It/They”. This is highly unacceptable, even in trans circles. A conversation on Reddit from the R/FtM sub:

    They said, which is utterly insane:

    Part of the issue may be that people think It is an insult, it’s a slur. You’re not even human. Sure someone could say their pronouns are the N word, but I wouldn’t be comfortable using it and I think I would struggle calling a human it for a similar reason tbh

    I said: Then they need to get over that, honestly. I know exactly how the word It sounds to me, and it feels right.

    That’s what matters.

    I don’t need anyone else’s permission to define who I am; just like I don’t ask other people how I should wear my hair or what I should name myself.

    If someone can respect a trans person’s pronouns even when they personally don’t understand or agree, then the same principle applies here.

    Refusing to use my pronoun because you think it “sounds wrong” is no different from refusing to use she/her for a trans woman because you personally disagree with her identity.

    Respect isn’t about comfort.

    It’s about recognizing someone else’s humanity on their own terms.

    I just want to note that comparing my pronoun to a racial slur isn’t an appropriate analogy.

    One is a word people use to attack and dehumanize others; the other is the pronoun I use for myself.

    It’s not a slur; it’s my identity, and I’m asking it to be respected the same way anyone else’s pronouns would be.

    And despite what even Im feeling by my own replies, this is not a long troll or a con, I am an ACTUAL it/they, having these valid feelings.

    they said: Honestly i disagree, there are obviously limits to respecting pronouns, if i gave you a 50 syllable word as my pronoun and i expected you to not only memorize it, it would be totally unreasonable. So if we can agree that there are some pronoun requests that are unreasonable then it’s an individual decision where you personally draw the line. I don’t like It as a way to describe people, it dehumizes them and has weighty historical issues especially when describing neuro atypical people. Again i would not use a slur to describe someone even if they asked me to themselves and frankly if someone was insistant on pushing my boundaries like that i just would avoid interacting with them as much as possible. Respect goes both ways and making people call you an offensive term shows a complete lack of respect for the people around you.

    I said: I dont see how asking to be respected is going too far.

    Guess I shouldnt expect acceptance from ALL trans, then

    they said: How is you asking people to call you a slur respecting them, when they have stated it makes them uncomfortable? You can’t demand respect while not respecting others… It’s a two way street.

    me: How is using the correct grammatical word a slur?

    Do I not get to pick my own pronouns or is that just for binaries?

    Is the respect allowed to choose your own pronouns only for males or females? Im not asking too much to be called what I am, Im asking for the exact same thing you are as what I assume is a she If someone disagreed with you being a “she” would they have the right to call you a “he”?

    The double standard Im experiencing here is crazy.

    Y’all expects ppl to accept your pronouns but not mine.

    Quite frankly, if you expect your pronouns to be respected, then respect mine.

    As you said, its a two way street. And I must again point out the utterly gross way that another poster likened my pronoun to the N word. Come the eff on. No comparison at all. “It” is not a word invented to cause harm, it is a standard word in English.

    them: Ok, lets go back to my previous point, would you respect someone’s pronouns if they were over 100 characters long? Would you learn an incredibly long, hard to remember, hard to say pronoun? We say respect people’s pronouns, because it’s shows respect for a person and causes you at most mild inconvinoence, its an easy, simple way to not be an ass, but there is nuance, if you abuse that right by making it difficult to say, pronounce, change it every werk or make it offensive or upsetting, which is the case here then we won’t comply. I also wouldn’t respect your pronouns if they were My Master or shithead for example. If you don’t have the respect to choose pronouns that aren’t offensive then you can’t be upset when people don’t use them. It is not the correct grammatical term. go check the Oxford Dictionary, the closest you can get is Example 3, but that isn’t being used as a Noun.

    me: Respect doesn’t mean everyone must feel comfortable with every pronoun.

    It means acknowledging someone’s identity as valid, even if it challenges personal biases or discomfort.

    Just as a cis person might need to work through discomfort to use “she” for a trans female person, you could be encouraged to reflect on why “it” feels so insurmountable for you.

    My identity is what it is, “it” and I should not have to ask someone else’s opinion on whether that’s allowed or not.

    Just like I should not have to poll everyone around me as to what words I use to describe myself.

    Did you have to ask the herd’s consensus before you decided what you were?

    No, you did not.

    Why do i?

    me:

    You do realize you just wholly equated my pronoun to the N word here right?

    You DO realize how highly objectionable that is?

    them:

    Because they are both slurs, i think you fail to realize how objectionable it is that you want to use a slur as your pronoun…

    me:

    And yet you fail to realize the hypocrisy of denying my pronouns yet requiring your own

    and that doesnt even matter if yer trans or not, even if yer cis, you have pronouns that if they are incorrectly used you will become upset about, Im just asking for that same basic level of respect.

  • My experience as an It/They

    If you are a he/she, or even a “They” you are allowed to force the issue if someone says they are uncomfortable with your chosen pronoun.

    If you are an “it”, you are expected to be understanding that noone is ever going to call you that as ‘it’ is a bad pronoun.

    Im sorry, Im XXY, Im neither male, nor female, and English is a limited language, you have he, she, it or they, to my knowledge, I know there are more, but I am autistic and not comfortable using words Im not familiar with.

    Dont like “they” in the singular as it drives my father up the wall, and even if I have not spoken to him since I came out trans, some of his approval apparently still matters.

    Also; I will probably never know what its like TO be called by my chosen pronouns, as even the most progressive liberal, will refuse “it”

  • The Cost of Control

    a coworker at Disney, I cant remember what precisely started it, but he was getting on my very last nerve, and I got the managers to rotate me out before something bad happened.

    They gave me a break instead, so I went to the break room, trying to read a book but my hands were shaking.

    That ahole left his position to continue the argument, left guests in his ride, just to get in my face. I tried to ignore him, I was sitting. I tried to read the book, he grabbed my book and threw it, I stood up, he pushed me back down, and the managers saw my face.

    I stood back up, and the thing I very much remember is the red haze around the edges of my vision as I stood back up, as I was far beyond that tolerance and I was about to get fired.

    I stood up, as the middle guys, not managers but above us, I cant remember the name, started sprinting across the room to get to us as they thought I was going to hit him, and maybe for a bare moment, I was, but I said, “You want to leave this room. Right now.”

    At which point the Coordinators, ah yes thats the word, the coordinators got to him, and removed him from the room, to free his guests.

    Im pretty sure he got fired for that.

    I quoted Malcolm Reynolds, in a moment of stress, which is just so geeky.

    Theres a part in Firefly I think, where Jayne says, “Just cause Kaylee gets all lubed up over this big city dandy…” talking about Simon…

    And Mal, in that silent, ominous voice says, “You want to leave this room. Right now.”

    That same control that kept me from hitting him is the same control I use every day when someone calls me ‘sir.’

    And the last time I worked, someone called me, “sir”.

    It just hit wrong and I very nearly ripped his head off.

    For reference, I am also very aware how I look, as I am aware that what I am is not visible, as my genetics cannot be determined by a visual scan. I had incorrectly assumed having a white name tag reading “Elyssa” on a black shirt would be sufficient to keep ppl from calling me “sir” but I was very very wrong. I am also aware that no matter what I do, noone will ever see me as anything BUT a “sir” which unfortionately means I will have to start correcting people, which I severely do not wish to do.

    I SO MUCH do not wish to do this, my next tattoo I have planned is “I am not a sir” on my outer right forearm, so I just have to point.

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